Another Person I Want to Meet - Jeff Bezos
I’ve previously written that I’d like to meet A.G. Lafley, CEO of P&G, because what he has done since taking over at the helm of P&G has been nothing short of bada$$. I’ve also previously written about Jeff Bezos, the CEO and Founder of Amazon.com and am now adding Mr Bezos (I’ll call him Jeff going forward) to the list of people I want to meet.
Jeff talked about innovation in BusinessWeek’s April 28, 2008 issue (article here) and the guy is so spot on, it makes me almost wish human cloning was possible so we could install other Jeffs at old-school companies which need to be shaken up to realize the potential they have before them and help them escape from the unoriginality morass they seem to be stuck in.
Here are my favorite excerpts from the interview with Jeff although the whole thing is pretty outstanding so I’d suggest you read it.
Q: Few CEOs have taken as much flak as you have for spending on innovation, in both good times and bad. What’s your philosophy?
A: My view is there’s no bad time to innovate. You should be doing it when times are good and when times are tough—and you want to be doing it around things that your customers care about. For us, it’s such a deep-seated belief, I’m not sure we have a choice.
Q: The company has a reputation for frugality. Does that apply to the way you innovate?
A: I think frugality drives innovation, just like other constraints do. One of the only ways to get out of a tight box is to invent your way out. When we were [first] trying to acquire customers, we didn’t have money to spend on ad budgets. So we created the associates program, [which lets] any Web site link to us, and we give them a revenue share. We invented one-click shopping so we could make check-out faster. Those things didn’t require big budgets. They required thoughtfulness and focus on the customer.
Q: You seem able to ignore criticism from Wall Street, the press, and others about your investments in innovation.
A: I believe you have to be willing to be misunderstood if you’re going to innovate. That’s actually a serious point. If you’re going to do something that’s never been done before—which is basically what innovation is—people are going to misunderstand it just because it’s new
Q: Every company claims to be customer-focused. Why do you think so few are able to pull it off?
A: Companies get skills-focused, instead of customer-needs focused. When [companies] think about extending their business into some new area, the first question is “why should we do that—we don’t have any skills in that area.” That approach puts a finite lifetime on a company, because the world changes, and what used to be cutting-edge skills have turned into something your customers may not need anymore. A much more stable strategy is to start with “what do my customers need?” Then do an inventory of the gaps in your skills. Kindle is a great example. If we set our strategy by what our skills happen to be rather than by what our customers need, we never would have done it. We had to go out and hire people who know how to build hardware devices and create a whole new competency for the company.
Q: How do you build a culture that is comfortable sticking with ambitious, controversial initiatives?
A: We have three all-hands meetings a year, and I’ll tell people that if the stock is up 30% this month, please don’t feel you are 30% smarter. Because when the stock is down 30% a month from now, it’s not going to feel that good to feel 30% dumber. When the Internet bubble burst, our stock went from over 100 a share to a low right after September 11 of 6. Throughout that entire period, the fundamentals of the business continuously improved. You can see the stock price going in the opposite direction of the fundamentals. So it wasn’t that worrisome to us.
Q: Does that mean that dealing with the whipsaws on Wall Street have not been a management problem for you?
A: Not really. It’s like trying to get people to be long-term-oriented. Also, people who want to pioneer and find new ways of doing things know there are going to be ups and downs, that there will be profound moments of success and failure. And that’s O.K. It’s not an experiment if you know it’s going to work.
Q: Do you feel vindicated, given how well the company is doing now?
A: No. I’ve taken plenty of criticism, but it’s always been about our stock price and never about our customer experience. After the bubble burst, I would sit down with our harshest critics, and at the end of the meeting they would say, “I’m a huge customer.” You know that when your harshest critics are among your best customers, you can’t be doing that badly.
Ok so I copied at least 70% of the interview. It’s really that good.
